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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

17 years old. It's hard to believe that all of these healthy young people are walking around with "undiagnosed heart issues". Athletes have to undergo physicals to participate.

https://www.al.com/news/2023/08/pinson-valley-high-school-star-basketball-player-caleb-white-dies-after-medical-emergency-at-school.html

Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

A little bit of understatement perhaps.

Since when does a commercial plane turn back because a passenger is "feeling unwell".

"Accidental drowning", is there such a thing as "drowning not by accident".

I know what you mean Mr.Rabbit, I don't need to do anything amazing, just not being shot up puts me in credit for a lot of smarts.

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The Chad Rabbit's avatar

It keeps happening. There's no way they don't have the granular data on this. And it must be connected to swimming per se. The cold, the breathing, whatever. We'll see.

Maxstirner's avatar

I suppose ppl who would normally collapse and recover die in the water, yes, granted, but could there be some effect of cold water -> blood pressure -> capillaries contracting -> spike-booger getting stuck in smallest vessels?

The Chad Rabbit's avatar

It could be a number of things as I see it. What I'm looking at is excitement. One, the cold: that temperature change can be very exhilarating and extremely even panicky, and two, your body and being knows it can die in the water, so it's on edge in a deep way, causing a stress response, perhaps, that's akin to the breath-holding stress response (a la Wim Hoff, the Iceman, et al), ie, a first-order stress response ie the kind you go through when you think you might die. That excitement is tied to the sleeping deaths -- early morning adrenaline et al spikes -- and to the regular-exciting deaths, too -- performing onstage, running in a race, playing football in front of the whole country and then dying in front of everybody and still the sheep don't wake up. Is that a run-on sentence? That's what I'm looking at. Now, what the idiot coroner's should be looking at are the stains that show the spike proteins. They are easily available right off-the-shelf as I understand it.

We know what they have to say about it. ABTV. Every time.

Cheers

Maxstirner's avatar

I meant a specific circulatory effect.. for instance, I fall over when I've been say drinking alcohol in a warm skiing hut for hours and then I go outside in a t-shirt to have a cigarette (did occur in this precise order 20 years ago!)